I don’t want to spend all of my time “infighting.” It’s actually very annoying. I would much prefer to dedicate my time to other things. I have a lot of articles to finish and squabbling with idiots is a big timesink. But I feel compelled to do it because I noticed that the DR was being driven off the rails and it seemed like nobody was willing to instigate “infighting” or even mildly criticize DR talking heads.
The DR has extremely cult-like behavior whereby media personalities become deified. They gather up a small following of dedicated fans who hang on their every word and then viciously gatekeep their audience by accusing any critics of being feds or whatever — regardless of how valid their criticisms are and how much evidence they have in support of their claims.
I think part of the problem is that the DR has no clearly defined set of first principles. This means that it invariably gets dragged down insane and counterintuitive paths. In the past couple of years alone I’ve seen people:
- Shilling for COVID vaccines, lockdowns, and even social credit systems (!) as “based authoritarianism” that will “defeat Liberalism.”
- Shilling for Stalinist USSR as “le trad utopia.”
- Shilling for Islam (including the Islamic conquest of Europe).
- Shilling for ChiComs and Socialism in general.
- Trying to ally with “based” Leftists (who do not exist and never did).
- Calling people “anti-White” because they don’t care about Palestine or some other Third World tribal conflict.
- Spending all of their time trying to rehabilitate bad mustache man (aka the modern equivalent of Satan).
- Saying that they want hostile foreign civilizations to destroy and conquer our own.
- Saying that they want our entire civilization to be burned to the ground because le tribal hunter-gatherer LARP (I was guilty of this one, my bad).
- And most recently, celebrating anti-White terrorist attacks just because the perpetrator was a “based racist Hotep” or because the little White girls who were killed “would just grow up to be whores anyway.”
Imagine how bad the DR would be without infighting?
Thuletide 
That’s not infighting. That’s pointing out the shortcomings of your own side and is the bare minimum anyone trying to have some degree of political effectiveness should be doing.
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I hate Palestine shilling. I won’t go out of my way to throw shills under the bus. But I’ve had fairly heated debates with friends. What do you accomplish by shilling for Semites? How does it help New England? The energy wasted, how could it be used to help you understand your role in history, your ancestors? Same with this “best Korea” drivel.
It’s a low, low bar sometimes. Not a fan of accelerationism either. I’ve yet to meet a father who loves his children that thinks it’s a good idea.
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I possibly disagree with you. It’s well that many groups survive and resist globalism. Of the two groups you mention: Koreans seem unusually distinct, and Palestinians seem to share some common heritage sites. They had a 4K yr old cemetery destroyed recently. Marsh Arabs in Iraq claimed decent from the Sumerians, as I understood it, and seemed to use the old reed ship technology that was common in the past.
At the least, it’s well to clarify that whites in the US dont support the crimes of the empire. I tend to argue that I want full neutrality, but the US gov isnt currently neutral.
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Possibly disagree? That’s refreshingly polite, I respect that. I fully recognise my positions are unpopular. And by way of clarification, I’m not against solidarity. But where I begin to take offense is when Whites throw in more for foreigners than their own. For example, a man ought to know more about his own culture than another.
I could go for a Neutral, preferably Isolationist U.S., although my preference that is an unmitigated pipedream would be to see an Anglosphere culturally united against globalism.
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Populist-leaning elites with trad principles are what many of us would prefer to see, I guess. Because most don’t want to rule or aren’t capable of it, we need to support those willing to see our way on economic and cultural issues. We could also, as some post-libertarians suggest, buy influence among the political class through coming together to hire lobbyists.
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I agree with you. Populist leaning. But it may be that there are literally none at all who are not thoroughly corrupted already. I am sorry to be so cynical because it is truly unpleasant, but I’ve been watching this going on for decades and it always gets worse, NEVER better. In all my life, it’s NEVER gotten better. Only much worse—on every imaginable level.
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I admit that while technology has made our lives better in many ways, in more essential modes — cultural and moral — our civilization has become Late Roman Empire redux. So, is your opinion that we have to wait to rebuild on the ashes of our soon-to-be dead society?
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Concerning your response to Christina, do you think modern technology has made us soft? Or is this more a result of contemporary society under corrosive jewish influence?
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We’re spoiled compared to previous generations. The softness provided by medical tech, internet access, sewage and water treatment, etc., is something I wouldn’t want to give up, though. The elites are in the process of reducing access to food and technology, so we’re going to have to get harder whether we like it or not.
Joos aren’t the only ones destroying Western civilization. Schwab and Rockefeller aren’t heebie-jeebies, for example. But minorities with resources always try to replace the majority, however they can. Some of our own are helping to divide us through elevating minorities, which is a betrayal I hope is remembered when TSHF.
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Jews would seem to have a better organizing structure for current society. Too many whites of my sort believe in some kind of individualism, like Dr. MacDonald, though I havent read his recent work on it.
Whites will just need to eventually adapt a better social structure to survive in the current environment or move elsewhere.
Politics is, in a sense, math. So, if the current equation doesnt work, there’s just need for one that does work. Jews have a structure that works a bit better in this environment, not that copying theirs is best.
I dunno if any of my comments here will post; so, Ill just repeat that relocating to an area most wouldnt want to live in could be a survival strategy. People tend to mix when in proximity.
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Rockerfellers are crypto jews and Klaus Schwab looks like a jewish mongrel.
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Yo Thuletide, did you see my last comment on the last post you made, specifically the second part about evidence about the negative long-term economic impact of immigrants. Wasn’t able to find good comprehensive studies myself. Also wanted to hear your opinion about feminism/woman labor and the destruction of the birth rate in the west and what should be done about it.
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don’t remember the comment but i got a bunch of diversity studies in this article here:
and to solve the birth rate problem and the woman problem literally all you need to do is ban divorce and contraception. most people in the west do completely pointless jobs anyway so halfing the labor force wouldnt really be a big problem
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Ban the redistribution of money after divorce, or divorce altogether? What do you think of marriage loans to raise White birthrates?
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Not him, but I know that Emil Kirkegaard has looked at the net impact of immigration on a few European countries. It’s not good.
https://kirkegaard.substack.com/p/immigration-economics-for-economist?s=r
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Thanks
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Tbh your called Hitler no matter what u do even if you’re milquetoast as fuck like Trump you will still get called Hitler. Really I think we’re at the point where most people don’t care anymore if you’re called a nazi since the label has been so liberally used to attack anyone the left or the establishment doesn’t like. I’m not saying to go out and dress and act like a skinhead just saying we should be honest about our views and brave when we’re forced to defend ourselves from mudslinging. I’ve noticed that more and more people are becoming sympathetic to national socialism and open to hear the other side of the Second World War because leftists are just being extremely annoying and insufferable cunts. We could always just call ourselves National Populist it’s the same really plus it doesn’t the negative pr from the word socialism which many Americans find repugnant
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You make a great point!
While I don’t dislike Thuletide, although I don’t think Thuletide understands the value in shining a spotlight that exposes the lies of the holocaust and WWII. Point being you can strive to be a National Socialist without being too overt about it. I don’t consider it infighting to discuss the subject in greater depth.
The lies surround subjects like the holohoax are imperative for the jews to ban all criticism of their criminal power structure. Without the phony holocaust narrative, the jews would be open to scrutiny. They rely on this narrative to silence exposure of jewish behaviour, while using the holohoax as a template for instilling in Whites a guilt complex where all racial conflict between groups of Whites and non-whites where Whites came out victorious amounts to a long list of mini “holocaust”.
One of TRS’ biggest critiques of Thuletide is his questionable distaste of National Socialism that I wish he would pontificate on. I find this strange since it is the most successful solution to the jewish problem and was among the most adamant movements interested in the preservation of the White races.
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Trs is not a legitimate group to take advice from. They’re literal communist and FEDs that praise Zionism and sodomy whenever they get the chance they’re worse than conservatives because they know they’re full of shit and what they’re promoting is bad for our people. They don’t even believe in National Socialism in the first place they’re Eurasianist aka Sino-Soviet centric globalist compared to Atlantist who are Western centric globalist. If you take advice from a Semite or a traitor you’re dooming your own people.
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*I believe it is more to do with optics.
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I recognize that TRS are untrustworthy feds who only pretend to like National Socialism. As for Thuletide’s attitude towards NS ideology, I believe he is to do with optics. I don’t mind whether or not he is in favour of NS, or against it. I on the other hand am in favour of NS.
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I can respect thuletides personal beliefs since he acknowledges the impact of race on society and the Jewish question. However by trying to play the optics game aka changing our standards and beliefs too our enemies we lose. There is a way to promote national socialist ideas without waving the swastika but quite clearly when you promote such views without the label you’re called it anyway. Really let’s be honest here most people are cowards and will only side with us if we have any institutional power. What the national populist right should do is to start and create our own counter institutions to challenge the establishments our own media, entertainment, academia, and so on. The masses will support anything if you put it on the screen hell just look at leftists in the USA who shout to kill all nazis but support the azov battalion a neo nazi militia in Ukraine. These people have no real beliefs it’s just a shitflinging contest with them too see who can garner the most popularity and be trendy. Leftists shout that racism(whatever the hell that means nowadays) and ethnic cleansing is wrong but if you go on sites like Reddit you see they’re cheering for the death of the Russian people all because Putin and his cronies want to expand their geopolitical interests.
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DR = Duginist Right.
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I understand people’s desire to make a living from what they do, but unfortunately you can’t trust people who are professional commenters. Eventually the drive to say something retarded for the engagement just becomes too strong, and then a retarded opinion held “ironically” inevitably becomes the contrarian hill to die on for them. COVID hysteria is the biggest recent example of this and one of the worst, because it wasn’t being wrong once, it was being consistently wrong for two years about the biggest thing in the world (whether you liked it or not).
Trust a guy with a normal job who sh*tposts for the love of the game over an influencer, always.
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What’s DR? Dugins right?
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dissident
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Gotcha, thanks
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“And most recently, celebrating anti-White terrorist attacks just because the perpetrator was a “based racist Hotep” or because the little White girls who were killed “would just grow up to be whores anyway.””
This legitimately blackpilled me for weeks. If you don’t fight for your own children, why even be a nationalist? Who are you fighting for?
Once again, another solid read SP.
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Remember the three Ds: Dissidents Don’t Dissent!
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Thanks yet again for calling this stuff out. These duginists got called out and they don’t like it. I will say it again, TRS and co have gone way backwards into Marxist hellhole. All they do is worship anti white “anti Zionist” types.
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“The DR has extremely cult-like behavior whereby media personalities become deified. ”
Why do you refuse to debate those “retards”? Why not give it a chance? You seem to have already made up your mind on the issue, going so far as to insinuate they are Nazbol commies. I most surely will not give you a hard time.
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debates are pointless and I prefer to put things in writing so there’s a clear record
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Never mind. I hadn’t noticed you were alluding to the Nazbols.
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