Since the remnant Alt-Right is currently shilling hard for Russia invading Ukraine, as if Putin is some sort of savior, I think it’s a good time to repost this article.
Contents
- TL;DR “Duginism” explained in two minutes
1.1. Who is Aleksandr Dugin?
1.2. What is “Duginism”?
1.3. Why should you care about Duginism? - Introduction
- Who is Aleksandr Dugin?
3.1. Satanism
3.2. Anti-Whiteism
3.3. Globalism - What is ‘Duginism’?
4.1. Foundations of Geopolitics summary - Dugin’s fingers in every pie: Incriminating evidence
5.1. Alt-Right, Radix, Richard Spencer, Keith Woods, etc.
5.2. Arktos Media and AltRight Corporation
5.3. Lauren Southern
5.4. Traditionalist Workers Party, TheRightStuff.biz
5.5. European Identitarians, Generation Identity
5.6. Dugin on Identitarians, French New Right, Alain de Benoist
5.7. Alain de Benoist on Dugin
5.8. Crypto-Communism?
5.9. What’s going on with these people?
1. TL;DR: “Duginism” explained in two minutes
1.1. Who is Aleksandr Dugin?
Dugin LARPs as an “academic” but he is almost certainly a spook working for GRU, the Russian equivalent of the CIA, which was originally founded by Trotsky’s deputy.
1.2. What is “Duginism”?
“Duginism” is a colloquialism used to refer to Dugin’s ideology, which is Neo-Eurasianism combined with Third Worldism and virulent anti-Whiteism (which is often disguised as “anti-Liberalism” or “anti-Atlanticism”). Duginism aims to establish a Neo-USSR, which will be (in Dugin’s words) the “empire of the end times” and span the entire Eurasian continent. His ideology fits into the overarching Globalist scheme of intentionally collapsing the West and shifting their base of operations into the East.
Dugin believes in causing as much chaos in foreign countries as possible, symbolized by his emblem, the satanic chaos star sigil. He takes a lot of influence from the occult, particularly Jewish mysticism and eschatology (hence the “end times” empire). As Dugin wrote in his book Foundations of Geopolitics, which was co-drafted by the head of Russian Ministry of Defence and used as a textbook by the Russian military Academy of the General Staff: “[Russia should] introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S.”
1.3. Why should you care about Duginism?
Because it has ideologically infested Western nationalism for years. Why do you think so many Western nationalists shill for China, for Russia, for the Islamic world, and so on? Where do you think these anti-Western ideas originated? This nonsense is not organic.
2. Introduction
The purpose of this article is to demonstrate that:
- Aleksandr Dugin is a satanic freak and almost certainly a spook (GRU/KGB agent).
- The main nationalist coalition in the West, consisting of the Alt-Right, New Right,
and Identitarian Movement, has direct links to Aleksandr Dugin, and thus “Russian”
foreign intelligence (which works on behalf of the same rootless globalist oligarchs
as Western intelligence agencies).
Please bear in mind that the evidence contained in this article is by no means exhaustive. If you want to find more, you can easily uncover it. Dugin has been publishing nonsense online for decades.
3. Who is Aleksandr Dugin?
Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin is a Russian political strategist with ties to some of the most powerful people in Russia: Various oligarchs, billionaires, Kremlinites, military men, and even Putin himself. This includes people such as Sergey Naryshkin (Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service), Igor Rodionov (Defence Minister), and Gennadiy Seleznyov (Chairman of the State Duma). Dugin’s father was a colonel-general of Russia’s Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), which is essentially the Russian militaries’ KGB; a foreign-intelligence agency. GRU was originally established in the USSR by Leon Trotsky’s deputy. Dugin was born into spookdom via his father, who was an extremely high-ranking spook. The number of influential KGB agents that Dugin has collaborated with is too long to list here (see here: http://archive.vn/iOvCT).
There are a few common misconceptions about Dugin in the West, largely propagated by the lying mainstream media, but also by clueless (or subversive?) nationalists. These include claims that Dugin is…
• A Fascist.
• Nationalistic.
• Anti-imperialist.
• Anti-Liberal.
• Pro-Christian (specifically Orthodox).
• Traditionalist (capital-T Traditionalism of René Guenon and Julius Evola).
• Somehow beneficial to White nationalists within the West.
These claims are not just “slightly untrue” or an “easy mistake to make,” they are a complete polar inversion of the truth. All of the above can generally be debunked in under ten minutes via a quick web search or by reading Dugin’s own words.
Contrary to the fact that every media establishment in the West labels Dugin a “Fascist,” he is unequivocally ANTIFA. He was an early member of the Communist ‘National Bolshevik’ (NazBol) party and assisted in the party’s organization. He adores Lenin, Stalin, etc. In addition to being a Bolshevik, Dugin is wholesale anti-White and has openly advocated for “white genocide.” He is also a deranged Satanist, obsessed with Chaos Magic, Kabbalah, and Jewish Eschatology, among other things. He’s also promoted cannibalism numerous times.
All things considered, he is the last person that self-proclaimed “Anti-Semitic” and “Pro-White” Western nationalists should be associating with. Yet, he is connected to almost every single influential Alt-Right and Identitarian figure. Why? Your guess is as good as mine, but it may have something to do with this quote from his book ‘Foundations of Geopolitics:’
3.1. Satanism
There is so much incriminating evidence against Dugin that it would be impossible to include everything, but the selection below should be sufficient.
The satanic ‘chaos star’ sigil is Dugin’s official emblem. It can also be found on the Tarot deck of Aleister Crowley, of whom Dugin is a huge fan. Although Dugin claims to be a Christian, he is undoubtedly a LARPing fake convert, akin to the Sabbatean-Frankists.
3.2. Anti-Whiteism
Below is some evidence of Dugin’s anti-Whiteness. It’s important to note that Dugin uses the words White/West/European/Liberal interchangeably and that his views on race have not changed since the 1990s; he continues to publish anti-White tirades to this day.
3.3. Globalism
Dugin’s words often echo the sentiments of historic globalists, such as the ex-Prime Minister of Israel, who stated that the USSR (Eurasia) will act as the ‘word police’ for the future world government (‘United Nations’), or Kalergi, who founded the EU on behalf of the Rothschilds.
4. What is ‘Duginism’?
In brief, Duginism is Neo-Eurasianist Third Worldism. When you strip back Dugin’s many layers of psychobabble, his ideology is simply a revival of Bolshevism and the USSR (Russian imperialism), merged with later Western Marxist theories on race and gender. He is a self-proclaimed fan of Franz Boas. Dugin combines all of this ideological nonsense with Third Worldism and the idea that the entire planet must unite in the hatred of Whites (which he poorly disguises as the hatred of “Liberalism”). You could say that Duginism is simply ‘Bolshevism 2.0.’ There is little difference between his ideology and that of Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, or Mao.
Two of Dugin’s works are key to understanding his political theories and strategies:
- ‘The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia’ (1997)
- ‘The Fourth Political Theory’ (2009).
Foundations of Geopolitics (FoG) is by far Dugin’s most important work. Dugin himself describes it as an “indispensable guide for all those who make decisions in the most important spheres of Russian political life – for politicians, entrepreneurs, economists, bankers, diplomats, analysts, political scientists, and so on.”
In FoG, Dugin outlines his ‘Neo-Eurasianist’ geopolitical strategy, which includes a multitude of instructions on how to subvert, manipulate, and conquer various countries in order to create a Eurasianist empire. He describes his ideology as “the battle for the world rule of Russians,” stating that “the maximum task is the ‘Finlandization’ of all of Europe.”
In 1998, Dugin claimed that Stalin was “an Elder Brother” and “a manifestation of Eurasianism in its communist variant” (http://archive.vn/IP9Se pg. 140). 14 years later, he claimed that he has “been struggling [to unite Soviet and Russian patriots] for 25 years” and that he is “on the side of Stalin and the Soviet Union” (http://archive.vn/oCN7s).
In 2014, Dugin published an article titled ‘Horizons of our Revolution. From Crimea to Lisbon’ via his 4PT website (http://archive.vn/xAmTj), in which he stated: “We aren’t going to limit ourselves by annexing Crimea. That for sure. […] our revolution will not stop in Western Ukraine. It must go further in Europe. […] It is the goal of full Eurasianism – Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Great Eurasian Continental Empire. And we will build it. This means European Revolution will be Eurasian Revolution. This is our last horizon.”
One day after Putin came to power in 2000, Dugin published an article stating that the KGB should be “the backbone of the Eurasian Renaissance” (http://archive.vn/jljgv).
Foundations of Geopolitics was influential among Russian elites, including the military, who used it as a textbook in their Academy of the General Staff. The book was co-drafted by Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, head of the International Department of the Russian Ministry of Defence. After writing FoG, Dugin was hired as a guest lecturer by the military, to explain his geopolitical Neo-Eurasianist theory to Russian officers and the likes. Seleznyov, a former Russian State Duma speaker and a buddy of Dugin, urged that FoG should be incorporated into the Russian school curriculum.
Most importantly, FoG is straight to the point and completely mask-off. Dugin declares his Neo-Eurasianist agenda proudly and openly. A summary of FoG is featured in section 3.1.
Fourth Political Theory (4PT), on the other hand, couldn’t be more different. You may have seen 4PT being praised by various nationalists in the West, as it was heavily shilled to Western audiences by organizations such as Arktos Media, which publishes and translates Dugin’s work for Western consumption, and other “New Right” or “Alt-Right” influencers.
4PT is not designed for Russian consumption, but to be read by hapless Western nationalists. Dugin’s aim with 4PT is to ideologically subvert nationalists in the West, making them more malleable and likely to assist (passively or actively) him in achieving the political goals he laid out in Foundations of Geopolitics. 4PT is overflowing with psychobabble, verbose gobbledygook, and complete bastardizations of various historic right-wing thinkers — particularly notable is the manner in which Dugin mutated and inverted the Traditionalist School of thought. For an idea of the sort of nonsense included in the book, chapter 13, “Gender in the Fourth Political Theory,” is devoted to arguing in favor of a-sexual transgenderism. Behind the shoddy and transparent mask of phony “Traditionalism,” nothing separates Dugin’s Fourth Political Theory from the extant ideology of the New World Order that he claims to oppose.
In summary:
FoG is Dugin’s political strategy document, in which he outlines highly detailed plans on how to create a Eurasian empire by subverting foreign nations, it was written for Eurasianists, to benefit Eurasianists. 4PT is an implementation of FoG’s political strategy, in that 4PT is a subversive book written for Westerners and disseminated in the West, to channel Western nationalism towards Eurasianist ends.
In brief:
FoG = Mask Off = Duginism-For-Me (For Eurasianists) = Influential among elites of Russia.
4PT = Mask On = Duginism-For-Thee (For the enemies/subjects of Eurasianists) = Promoted in the West by the Alt-Right, New Right, and Identitarians (specifically European Identitarians).
4.1. Foundations of Geopolitics summary
Much of the content of FoG aligns with the agendas promoted by the Alt-Right & Identitarians, this includes Pan-Europeanism and Pan-Eurasianism, Russian imperialism, pro-Islam, pro-Communism, Third Worldism, “anti-Atlanticism,” virulent anti-Americanism, and so on.
5. Dugin’s fingers in every pie: Incriminating evidence
Please note: I am not claiming that everyone listed below is a cognizant “Duginist” or fully on board with Neo-Eurasianism, Third Worldism, and USSR 2.0. I am merely demonstrating that Dugin’s tentacles span far and wide, and that his ideological influence is extensive — a fact that is wholeheartedly denied by the Alt-Right & Co (for obvious reasons). It should not be assumed that any pro-Russian pundit is on the Kremlin payroll. That would not be necessary for this sort of ideological subversion, which may only require a few key mouthpieces to inject these subversive ideas into a dissident sphere (see: Arktos Media publishing Dugin’s books for a Western audience). These subversive ideas spread via cultural osmosis (which is the most common way that people absorb ideology), especially if they are regurgitated by an influential figurehead. Does this mean that nobody is being paid to shill Russian ideological propaganda? Absolutely not. Western spooks run operations in the East, particularly targeting dissident movements, and Eastern spooks respond in kind.
As of 2022, it appears that Duginism has even leaked over to the Alt-Lite:
5.1. Alt-Right, Radix, Richard Spencer, Keith Woods, etc.
5.2. Arktos Media and AltRight Corporation
5.3. Lauren Southern
5.4. Traditionalist Workers Party, TheRightStuff.biz
Note that the TWP, of which Eric Striker was a leading figure, used Dugin’s chaos sigil as their logo.
5.5. European Identitarians, Generation Identity
5.6. Dugin on Identitarians, French New Right, Alain de Benoist
5.7. Alain de Benoist on Dugin
5.8. Crypto-Communism?
Alt-Righters seem to defend Commonism often enough. If they are Communists (or “Fourth Political Theorists”), then why don’t they admit it, instead of LARPing as “Third Positionists” aka dime store Fascists?
5.9. What’s going on with these people?
Maybe this?
Are these people being paid by Russian intelligence agencies to shill this nonsense in the West, with the intention of accelerating destabilization and collapse, or are they just useful idiots being played like a fiddle?
Asking them won’t result in any straight answers. They always lie through their teeth, claiming that they have no idea who Dugin is, despite having his name stamped on their websites and regurgitating his rhetoric verbatim.
Russia certainly isn’t the “anti-globalist” savior that the Alt-Right & Co claim it to be. It’s the eastern equivalent of America.
Thuletide 
Damn. I had a bad gut feel about the guy. And I never cared for Spencer. But I’ve had friends who do. Damning stuff altogether.
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That guy Spencer married a non-white woman of georgian-russian background. Google her!
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“Russia certainly isn’t the “anti-globalist” savior that the Alt-Right & Co claim it to be. It’s the eastern equivalent of America.”
Indeed, we all know of the Russian human rights organisations that push for the decriminalisation of homosexuality in tinpot African countries and which write up reports on journalistic freedom.
Everyone knows that the Russian embassies in Asia fly Black Lives Matter and LGBTP flags that are bigger than the Russian flag itself…
You get the point.
Showing some pictures of Mao with Jews from the 1960s is quite a cope and pure projection of the sorry state of the Anglo world onto the East.
Keith Woods is an insufferable pseudointellectual, but his takes on China and Russia are largely correct.
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His takes on China and Russia are absolutely retarded
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Dugin is an inconsequential figure in the Russian foreign policy calculus, you exaggerate his importance to further your own agenda (“No True Scotsman” fallacy in regards to White Nationalism).
Recent developments will merely accelerate de-dollarization which is a good thing. The fact is that Russia and China are not replacing their core populations with foreigners, the Central Asian guest workers are mostly being sent back and in any case were always living in peripheral areas of Moscow.
I find xenophillia as cringe as anyone else, but the fact remains that you come across as someone who is seething at Anglo retreat from the world stage, this is unsurprising as you have in the past defended the British Empire and how based it was, and denied that business interests of British businessmen then superseded racial interests.
The “racist Liberal” moniker used by Woods comes to mind here.
Lets put it another way, these happenings (which you urge your readers to ignore and not take a side in) are far more important to Europeans as a people that Amazon replacing the elves with mullato transvestites in the latest iteration of Soy of the Rings
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I tell people to take the side of anti-NWO regardless of which country is being puppeteered to do the NWO-ing, but keep sucking Putin’s dick I’m sure that’s going to save Evropa
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At this point the blame has to be set on everyone who knows nothing about the various political ideologies and involved parties who are ready to take in any hodgepodge of often contradictory believes that get thrown at them in a vague attempt to express their dislike of and direct action against a society they can feel is somewhat wrong. Which leads to a large crowd of useful idiots that do the work of the enemy.
I mean what the fuck even are all these supposed mashes of socialism, communism, nationalism, traditionalism, facism, christianism, islamism and other cock sucking supposed to be ?
We could maybe argue that Dugin himself is one of those guys given the mess he’s spewing and links to occultism. Though maybe he’s just carefully constructing various masks to interact with relevant figures in ways that will make them respond positively to whatever subversion he’s trying to instill, and his nonsense as a whole isn’t representative of his actual believes and goals (which would be either just some regular NWO pawn or some weird pro-“russian” (or some other group in russia) with NWO-adjacent methodology pawn). If he’s pretending to be a range of things to instill chaos in the west, that would explain the links with an assload of figures, but not why the latter deny his relevance. Idiots who don’t know what this is about, and/or bought/subverted pawns ?
I’d also blame the mental instability widespread nowadays creating fertile grounds for this nonsense, and a lack in most places of large scale right wing movements that knows what they’re talking about capable of educating people on politics. Not even necessarily right wing, just not subverted (tho you may argue it’s the same thing).
While i’m not used to seeing actual, open duginists in the chunk of the right i’m part of, it reminds me of all the idiots spewing nonsense that show up in and around it (tho some remote duginist influences sometime surface.) and those guys are doing major damage to our ability do get anything done. So maybe duginism is just the (seemingly at least) intentional exploitation of a wider problem.
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Is there anyone in the DR not gay and Satanic?
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I think most people have good intentions but are misled. the duginism stuff is the perfect example of how easy it is to poison a movement
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The description of Dugin as a malevolent actor is fitting. What about the prescriptive?
A. His strategy is effective, how useful would a similar approach against a ruling class instead of nationalist movements be?
B. How to mitigate the poison? From reading about him, his ideas seem to be explicitly bad yet effectively distributed in dissident right movements.
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no idea to both questions
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I don’t know about satanic, but it’s definitely gay.
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SP you should really make a dedicated article about how anti White and anti nationalist Putin actually is, due to our massive language barrier with Russia it is critical that we finally set the record straight and show how Russia is just East ZOG.
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Pretty sure I wrote one already but can’t remember, I’ve posted a ton of stuff like that on telegram and twitter for years tho
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No, You haven’t done yet. You wrote an article about China (https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/09/02/is-china-based-and-anti-globalist-lets-find-out/), not about Russia and Putin.
I recommend You to watch The Golden One videos, he seems one of the few clever guys in the Right Wing world, about the Putin question.
https://odysee.com/@thegoldenone:a/RussiaukraineOdysee:4
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yes TGO seems like a nice guy, very level-headed
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Putin is the political leader who has persecuted the most white nationalists and ethnic nationalists (Slavic in this case) in the world, more than the US, Australian, UK and German governments, another problem with him is that he is importing millions of brown Muslims, of the former republics of the USSR. Russia is the second country with most immigrants in the world behind the United States.
Putin is also a politician who has persecuted peaceful white religious communities, such as the Vysarion Church in Siberia.
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There is no such thing is White Nationalism in Russia!!
RU is fundamentally an asiatic empire, it has never been a true Nation.
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Yeah russia and China and their international Marxist governments have fucked the world and their own people. I cannot stand Duginists.
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There’s something eerie about the similarity between the hatred being stirred up against White people while our children are minorities in our country and the hatred being stirred up against America by dissident right influencers as it declines economically and influentially. Like it was thought up by the same minds
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Everything to do with asiatic, despotic, thirdworld Russia is poison.
The West is the best!
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Eurasianism is far worse than the European Union: It would mean the definitive end of Western Europe!!!
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You’re utterly insane to even think that.
You really think the EU somehow won’t mean the definitive end for whites but eurasianism will? REALLY?
EU means the definitive end for whites.
NATO means the definitive end for whites.
Whatever you want to call russia and china, means the definitive end for whites.
The EU has been genociding white people in europe for litteral ages, mass importing endless hordes apon hordes of non-white mutants and YOU think that somehow the EU doesnt mean the definitive end for whites, that it is somehow any better then russia? (both are equally horrible)
Russia didnt turn multiple german cities minority-white
Russia didnt make london overwhelmingly non-white
Russia didnt appoint a non-white mayor to london
Russia didnt enable the creation of massive human trafficking of young white children and grooming gangs in the UK and other places in europe
Russia didnt open the borders to every european nation to non-white hordes
Russia didnt give every EU member quota’s of refugees they had to import from africa and the middle east
Tribe members created the EU, not europeans. The EU was never meant for white people, it was always meant to be a organization that acts as a government body to figure out how to erase white people from europe in the quickest and most efficient manner possible. To think that the EU is somehow better then russia, is absurd, and the same for the reverse.
There seems to be alot of talk about Kremlin-shills, but there’s a criminal undermentioning of Pentagon-shills. You seem to be one.
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yep, all of these globalist organizations are terrible
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It’s thanks to NATO that Europe wasn’t invaded by Soviet Russia!!
NATO is good but must now do its job which is to nuke satanic Russia.
I’m very suspicious of people who blame the West for all the evil.
The West is the best.
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I honestly used to be suspicious of the Cassandras telling us to be worried about the spread of Duginist ideas, and his influence among /ourguys/. Seemed overblown, like one of these situations where he was probably just smart about photobombing the right people. There’s no way, right?
Given what I’ve seen lately though, no more.
It seems like on the one hand, you have the mainstream, pro-GAE/NWO position, and on the other hand you have the contrarian DR, pro-Eurasian/NWO position. Both sides fully demoralized, and VERY few commentators saying “wait a minute, both of these are bad.”
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yup, the dissident right is totally saturated with GRU/kremlin propaganda
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I only hope, I’m praying everyday that NATO counterattacks and finish off for all eternity that excrecency called the Russian Empire. whose history has been bloodsoaked since the first Khan/tsar Genghis Khan.
Take a look at Pootin’s handpicked defense minister, Sergey Shoigun, literally a Mongol from the Tuva ethnicity.
Thank you THULETIDE for exposing the russophile degenerates.
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Do not align your views with that of the Russian state in the west, a lot of the combat trained Ukrainian refugees coming your way are traditionalist ethno-nationalists; so do not alienate potential allies.
Let’s not gloat about the cause of the Russo-Ukraine war, lets instead view it’s consequences and see how it will change strategy going forward. What I am about to say is only for strategic perspective. Some things about Russia and of “alt-right”.
In the Cold-War fight against “global bolshevism”, America became it’s mirror image. International finance and transhumanist postmodernism. That is the new third-worldism, it is equally destructive to European races.
And so both should be rejected.
In the mean time, support American containment of China whilst simultaneously Paki provocations toward India. China has already destroyed it’s long-term prospects via destroying their own birthrate on purpose, America can still ensure China will not dominate Eurasia.
This will mean eventually when the ultranatiaonalist faction within Russia deposes Putin, it will still have control of the far east. Which can then be bleached/colonized by Slavs.
Russia:
Dugin is a spastic, but his only real influence within Russia is his geopolitical strategy.
Russia in the modern era is nearly as anti-europoid as the West, but there’s more to it.
It is incredibly difficult to decipher the actual ideology of any of them.
He doubles down on the old “Third Rome” idea, considering America “Carthage”. Building cobalt salted 100mt tsunami torpedoes to salt “carthage” clearly shows the intention. Atlanticism being the creeping influence of Anglo-American hegemony over Europe. But this is hardly third-worldism. This is more likely just old-worldism.
Putin is incredibly hard to decipher as to his personal views. He is self-contradictory just as Dugin is.
Putin in some kind of political theatre is scolding Zhirinovskiy for his “caveman nationalism”. Referring to the Russian military as “soviet military” in speeches etc.
But on the other hand, describes the USSR as a “historical Russian Empire”. Returns to traditions of that empire such as orthodoxy and implicit pan-slavism.
The next week Lukashenko will say something about Ukrainians and Belarusians “joint ethnic heritage” and some other rantings about ending Lithuanian nationhood.
That Jews hijacked the holocaust when Slavs were the main victims etc. And other things that are illegal to say in Russia, Lukashenko says periodically.
If Putin were explicitly looking to destroy the Slavic race, he would try to convert Kazakhs to Orthodoxy so they would race mix. The reality of Putin is he is a civic nationalist, and he has just damaged his own factions power. Which is mostly good.
Putin is either extremely naive and being played as a fool by the RNU/Pamyat adherents around him, or he is incredibly good at some kind of balancing act whilst slowly recreating the old Russia because he is deathly afraid of separatism. Slavic Nationalists are banned, but who is this Utkin character? Why is Putins personal version of ‘Kadyrovtsy’ mostly Slavic skinheads? So now you get the idea, Russian politics is actually heavily factionalized like most nations are. Ⱥnd the way in which Russia is administered is a uniquely Russian phenomena.
We will see if the leaked Russian victory speech is real, or if it is a fabrication. If it is real, it heavily indicates pan-slavism faction has won the internal battle within Russia.
Now onto the ‘west’:
The type of Pluralism the European identitarians wish for is a national pluralism, not within their own nations. But a federation of ethno-states. Similar to the modern Russian Federation if you consider Belarus as the white sovereignty.
In the west what you confuse as “alt-right” supporting Russian war are the types of accelerationists no longer believing in a political solution.
And so you cannot really call those types a political movement, but a radical one.
What you describe in your post is essentially what happened in Weimar Republik, it’s called “red-brown” alliance. Following a similar pattern to that of the Weimar Republik. The bolsheviks cannot take power in the west, because the west hasn’t had a catastrophic war as the Russian Empire did and ethnolinguistic/cultural/racial consciousness outstrips or matches class consciousness. The reason this works is due to the alienation of the white working class, as well as the incitement by Afro-American racists.
Decades of explicit anti-European policies likely cannot be reversed with the implicitly white European policies of the mid 20th century. At least in most Western nations. Central Europe sure, but why repeat the same mistake?
Inciting Afro American racists (Russia not needed for this), does this not increase the racial consciousness of the European-Americans? If they feel they are in a perpetual state of race war? What do you want, to coast on as the slow Brazilification of North America under some kind of nostalgic Reaganism/JFK? Mutual resentment is a decent strategy to Euro-American survival and anti-bolshevism/globalism. Euro-Americans number only around 200 million if including Canada.
So likely at the root of certain contingents of identitarians cheering of Russias invasion is it’s effects on politics. The implied famine and energy scarcity this war will likely cause in the west will force the hand of those last nostalgic domesticated sheep into action.
Accelerating the Weimarification of the United States, pushing it further into the position France is in currently; a perpetual state of self-inflicted political chaos. In which two of the four second round candidates are running on “Great Replacement” and identitarianism, because it’s clear the economy is over. Identitarianism is the mainstream right-wing in France, even Macron has to appease them; potentially even convinced himself. And it is slowly becoming the mainstream in the United States.
What you are actually witnessing is the end of the 18th century French/American Revolutions perversions of the enlightenment. The time between chaos and birth of something entirely new. This decade will be a decade of austerity, chaos and political violence. And so is that not the core of American/French identity, political revolution?
You can say Americans will return to their bread and circuses and forget the mutual resentment someday, but it’s been accelerating since at least 1970. There is a reason they have resorted to policing language, they’re losing their grip on power.
If you disagree, then what is your political solution? To return to tradition, first you must destroy modernity and postmodern transhumanism.
So we can take some inspiration from 1990s/2000s Italy and name this century today, the century of lead.
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How would you respond to Anatoly Karlin’s take on the general topic?
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-nationalist-turn/#comment-4929037
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That guy is completely braindead. A transhumanist and COVID vaccine shill who believes that Indians are more similar to Russians than Ukrainians are. His takes aren’t even worth reading.
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Criticising Putin for his stance on nationalism is missing one big point, which is the whole history of Russia. From its very beginning, Russia has always been an Empire and to this day it preserves an imperial vocation. How can its president be an ethno-nationalist when he rules so many different ethnicities? That would mean a balkanisation of Russia into a myriad of insignificant micro-countries, following a likely devastating phase. He would be crazy to support that. This is a different thing from what the Western media call “diversity”, though.
I’m not a Putin shill by any mean, I’m only trying to have the most objective and neutral outlook possible, but if we want to analyse Russia without first acknowledging it’s not a nation, then we start wrong.
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the issue is not just that Russia is a multi-ethnic empire, it’s that the Russian state is replacing ethnic Russians with immigrants.
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General Patton’s quote;
“The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European but an Asiatic and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese and, from what I’ve seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of a bitch, a barbarian, and a chronic drunk.”
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Should ethnic Russians be considered as fellow Europeans or are their mentality and identity too different from the Western ones?
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yes ethnic russians are european . denying that is just denying reality. european ethnic groups have always fought against one another, but the problem is mostly the russian state
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I guess If most Russians and Eastern Europeans were White they wouldn’t be incredibly backward, economically and culturally.
Slavic countries are huge melting pots: All kinds of asiatic tribes have settled down in their territories. Just fact.
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to the jeff guy; slavic countries are shitholes mostly due to communism. scandinavian countries were also very poor compared to other western european countries until the 20th century, are they not white as well? is whiteness to you how wealthy your country is? israel, china, saudi arabia must be very white countries then
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Slavic countries were already shitholes before communism. Science for instance is a product of the West, very few contribution from Eastern Europeans, who are to a considerable degree Asiatics: Tatars, Gypsies, Huns, Bulgars etc…
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Duginism (Fourth Position) is a absolute mockery to many Nationalists groups and Third Position parties, I still don’t know why almost all people are falling from this.
Now with this new Russo-Ukrainian conflict, people taking the bait from siding with GAYTO or Jewtin makes me feel that there’s no salvation in this world…
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after COVID and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I’ve lost all hope in the dissident right
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The COVID thing was more of a mixed score card, there were quite a few voices calling out the BS.
This Ukraine business though has been shocking, they’re all so lodged in the narrative that it doesn’t occur to them that there are people caught in middle, people like us, being killed by a Mixed-Mongoloid horde.
Yes the govt and oligarchy there is incredibly corrupt and jewy. Same is true in our countries. Would we be OK with our friends and family being killed to defeat the GAE (i.e. to “own the libs”)? Our cities being bombed to rubble?
The willingness among the DR to just glibly wish for the Eurasian empire to crush white nationalists in Ukraine is… Really fucking demoralized. And their excitement at “crushing the NAZIs” is really bolshy.
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nah, i’ve seen some good eggs on /pol/ of all places. the place has 2 general threads regarding ukraine; /chug/, where the kremlin bots hang out, (but with some realistic good eggs who see the situation for what it is, but think that in the long run, russia winning is the slightly better option), and /uhg/, which is a mix of r*dditors and guys who understand the situation the same as you do. i dont think being despondent is the answer here. you do a great job teaching others through this website, and i think that’s about the only thing we can do as of late. reteach the dissident right, until we get back to the 2014-2016 stage of intellect
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clarification on the /pol/ threads i mentioned: /chug/ is a successor of /sg/, the syria general board, who was and is pro-Assad, and rightfully so. why they dont seem to get is that while supporting Assad is fine, as he was fighting for his own country, and his side was clearly the morally superior one, they do not understand that the Ukraine situation is different, and that one is not supposed to support Russia with a mentality of “my side, right or wrong”
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Stradiota:
Assad is a monster who killed lots of other Syrians, like his father who terrorised Syria for 27 years.
Typical Arab tribal warfare.
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jeff, i followed the syrian war very closely in 2016-2018 and i can tell you that much that has been told of assad in the west is lies. his opponents were the terrorists of isis and the terrorists of al qaeda (the latter operating under differently named organizations with the same ideology). much of what was blamed on assad was done by these two organizations, many as false flag operations. it was convenient for the ZOG and general western media to blame them on Assad
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BTW I was fascinated by the link you spotted between the National-Justice and Russia-Insider websites, and it gets better – the N-J website is using a Russian pagecounter (same one as R-I) and there’s no way a Western web dev would use that. So the N-J website is probably coded by a Russian dev.
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Just thought I’d leave this here to ponder – https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1561202092026519552?s=21&t=A7Okv9bM6HZPSKqOoTkrpg 😉
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